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The Evil Monkey · Jul 23, 2008, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Well I am suggesting a new not quite account wide Title system

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Let me lay out my suggestion so it is easily understandable.

In the coming HoM update you will be able to toggle between character and account wide HoM.

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When you press the Hero Panel in GW you see your titles.

I am suggesting we add a new tab called account wide titles.

Here is how it would work.

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Character #1 - Has finished 15/25 missions in his protector of tyria title
Character 1 - in his "character title menu" have 15/25

Character #2 - Has finished the other 10 missions (none repeated)
Character 2 - in his "character title menu" he will have 10/25

In the account wide title there will be a 25/25 prot of tyria account wide title.

please note for KoaBD is only affected by character title based max titles not the account wide titles.

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Whats the point?

Look at it this way we all want to play multiple characters without hurting ourselves in GW2.

Maybe your guild requires you to play a monk for a certain mission. But your monk doesn't have that title near completion compared to your dervish.

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What about other reason?

Let me set up this situation.

I got r 7 asuran title track on my dervish so my pain inverter is awesome.

I love to play my Necromancer but he only has a r 2 asuran title track

well lets assume the r7+r2 = r8 in account wide.

to get passed r 8 account wide players must play on HM (just like in character based).
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Why would I work on character based titles if everything has a account wide equivalent?

For those going for KoaBD title the only way they can achieve this title is if they max of (x) number of character based titles.

At the max rank of KoaBD it becomes account wide for everyone to use.

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Further examples.

I unlocked 50 chests on my monk so that makes my character title
50/100 for r 1.

But I have 25 unlocked on my necromancer which makes my character title
25/100

but my account title would be 75/100.

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any questions ? Just ask

Just an idea (dont flame me :P)

Pleikki · Jul 23, 2008, 06:12 AM // 06:12

That would just be, stupid, these titles are allready so easy to obtain why should they make it even easyer

The Evil Monkey · Jul 23, 2008, 06:16 AM // 06:16

It isnt about the titles.

It is about playing other characters people are turned off about play more than 1 character because they have to gain titles for 1 character. So if they were to attain the title by playing multiple character why not.

It would NOT BE EASIER in fact it would be the SAME amount of difficulty.

All the titles are the same other than you play different characters.

Same time spent just on different characters. Nothing changes just more variety

Ghostcell · Jul 23, 2008, 06:41 AM // 06:41

/notsigned

it would make it easier, due to the face that if your r7 one one character in say delver, then you get r5 or what ever on another so say that gives your 10 combined, you don't have to do any HM at all to max it.

stupid attempt at making titles way to easy.

Babael · Jul 23, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

I think you are all misreading what hes saying. R7 +R3 does not make R10. What he's saying is the numbers will add up and not the actual ranks.

Such as the example he made with the chests.

It's a good idea. Basicaly all titles are account wide. Considering GW is coming to an end. Why not?

/signed

FoxBat · Jul 23, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

The only way to get people to read your whole post is to make it shorter, apparently.

Anyway this is basically the same as turning all titles account-wide, except they don't count for KoaBD. It would be nice to pick different chars for each vanquish zone when working on hall of monuments... not sure it's nice enough for the mess of work on Anet's part though.

MirkoTeran · Jul 23, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Just another cheap way of making titles account wide. /notsigned

The Evil Monkey · Jul 23, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostcell

/notsigned

it would make it easier, due to the face that if your r7 one one character in say delver, then you get r5 or what ever on another so say that gives your 10 combined, you don't have to do any HM at all to max it.

stupid attempt at making titles way to easy.

Not to mention at r 8 account wide you need to do HM to get rep.

please understand my suggestion before posting your choice if you have any questions please ask

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Just another cheap way of making titles account wide. /notsigned

Cheap way? This is to promote the use of more than one character rather than being trapped to one character because if you
don't you fail in GW2....

pamelf · Jul 23, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

I agree that some should be account wide...the chests for instance.

I don't really get your protector, or asura etc titles...

I do agree with K0ABD title being account wide, and taking different titles from each character. For instance I could have protector on one, carto on another, etc, and I do think that each of those should count toward an overarching KoABD.

The Evil Monkey · Jul 23, 2008, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamelf

I agree that some should be account wide...the chests for instance.

I don't really get your protector, or asura etc titles...

I do agree with K0ABD title being account wide, and taking different titles from each character. For instance I could have protector on one, carto on another, etc, and I do think that each of those should count toward an overarching KoABD.

Okay ill make the protector example similar.

On my dervish I have finished 24/25 missions

I just havent finished Ice Caves of Sorrow

On my Necro I can complete Ice Caves of Sorrow thus giving me
protector of tyria account wide.

But on my character tab of the titles it would still be 24/25 on my dervish

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Originally Posted by fireflyry

No.

1234567.

the 12 chars thing is obviously there so you have to offer your opinion so if you dont mind why did you vote no?

Ghostcell · Jul 23, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babael

I think you are all misreading what hes saying. R7 +R3 does not make R10. What he's saying is the numbers will add up and not the actual ranks.

Such as the example he made with the chests.

It's a good idea. Basicaly all titles are account wide. Considering GW is coming to an end. Why not?

/signed

no, i'm not misread- i was using r7 and r5 as an example.

put it this way,
i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 1. - No HM required
i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 2. - No HM required

combined that gives me 112k points
112k points would give you r9.

get a 3rd character to r7 56k points that would give you
168k points, which is more then enough for r10 - max

there for all your characters would have max norn, way way to easy to get a max rank like that AND!
you make a new character - rush them through get them ursan blessing.
you could have a lvl 10 or 11 with r10 ursan.

again
/notsigned

fireflyry · Jul 23, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Evil Monkey

the 12 chars thing is obviously there so you have to offer your opinion so if you dont mind why did you vote no?

Because I think it's a stupid idea with little thought placed into it hence the lack of supplying a reason.

It speaks for itself.

It would make account wide title based HoM rewards way to easy.

No.

I'm no title fan but this change would do nothing but make veterans and title grinders pissed off and casuals happy.Anet has done us a favor with the new account based system for HoM.

Thats's more than enough imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Evil Monkey

Look at it this way we all want to play multiple characters without hurting ourselves in GW2.

You don't even know what the HoM rewards are and 99% of the community seem to agree they will be at the most purely aesthetic, at the least not even worth having a month after the game comes out.

My conclusion:Wanting something for nothing, or at the least minimal effort.

No thanks.

I hate titles dude, but this idea is pretty silly.

Charlotte the Harlot · Jul 23, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58

/signed, hardly makes it any easier and does exactly what he says removes the dependency on having one main character and allows you to play multiple characters with out missing out on stuff in GW2

Jennie · Jul 23, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

But as other people have explained it makes things much easier... I disagree with it and think it would be a horrible idea.

/notsigned

The Evil Monkey · Jul 23, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennie

But as other people have explained it makes things much easier... I disagree with it and think it would be a horrible idea.

/notsigned

who explained it makes it easier?

MirkoTeran · Jul 23, 2008, 08:28 AM // 08:28

Does it make it harder? No. Does it stay the same? No. There is only one other alternative...

The Evil Monkey · Jul 23, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Does it make it harder? No. Does it stay the same? No. There is only one other alternative...

It is an alternate way of doing the same thing.

If I farmed 5k sunspear rep on character 1 and it took 20 minutes

would it be harder than farming 2.5k rep on character 1 for 10 minutes
and 2.5k rep on character 2 for 10 minutes?

duckboy · Jul 23, 2008, 08:53 AM // 08:53

clearly people havn't read this post to i'd like to repost it further down

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostcell

no, i'm not misread- i was using r7 and r5 as an example.

put it this way,
i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 1. - No HM required
i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 2. - No HM required

combined that gives me 112k points
112k points would give you r9.

get a 3rd character to r7 56k points that would give you
168k points, which is more then enough for r10 - max

there for all your characters would have max norn, way way to easy to get a max rank like that AND!
you make a new character - rush them through get them ursan blessing.
you could have a lvl 10 or 11 with r10 ursan.

again
/notsigned

by this it does make it easier to max pve skills, but then what do u expect from making something account based? ur always gonna run into the same problem of new characters having max titles thus max pve skills from the off.

This is why i dont like the Kurz/Lux title. If u max it out, get 10k faction stored, then make a new character in faction/nightfall (proph has pre so no gh), then go to guild hall, u'r newb lvl1 character gets 3 max pve skills!

i still would like the idea of an account wide tab since i do most of my title/mission progressions on a spreadsheet (10 character = hard to remember who has what

), but thats more of a conveniance than anything game wise.

so the idea of an account tab - /signed
the idea of account based mission, etc. titles - /NOTsigned
the idea of some titles like treasure account based - signed

Abedeus · Jul 23, 2008, 08:58 AM // 08:58

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Originally Posted by Ghostcell

tl;dr

So how is it different from playing 1 character and getting 160k in the first place? IT'S NOT. Oh and oh noes, a 5 days old character is as strong as 5 months old character, that's so bad... GUESS WHAT, IT SHOULD BE LIKE THAT FROM THE BEGINNING!

/signed here, although about protector, missions should count only if are unique. For example, if one character has Fort Ranik on Master, and the other one has Great Wall - it's 2/25. But if both have Fort Ranik OR Great Wall on master, it's still 1/25.

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then go to guild hall, u'r newb lvl1 character gets 3 max pve skills!

Your, not you're. And level 1 chars can't buy Luxon/Kurzick skills. And there can be only 1 skill for level 1 character, as they don't have secondary class. And even then you MUST be level 20.

duckboy · Jul 23, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

So how is it different from playing 1 character and getting 160k in the first place?

well there's hard mode for one?

tho tbh if u made it so once u got account rank 8 any character would have to do HM to get r9 and 10 account, THEN and ONLY THEN, would it work out the same

so i see where both of u are coming from...

Ghostcell is right that a player could cut out Hard mode entirely and thus make it easier, but like some of u have pointed out, u could just make it where as Hard Mode has to be done to get r9 and 10 account wide just like it does atm with character based.

Tread carefully young ones, this could lead to a path of the dark side....